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		<title>By: Thogi</title>
		<link>http://whiteafrican.com/2010/07/05/being-in-africa-makes-you-untrustworthy/comment-page-1/#comment-382619</link>
		<dc:creator>Thogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Let’s be honest; living in Africa, or being African, gives you a certain unwelcome aroma in the eyes of global corporations. Frankly, we’re just not trustworthy...&quot;
Welcome to Africa mzee
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Let’s be honest; living in Africa, or being African, gives you a certain unwelcome aroma in the eyes of global corporations. Frankly, we’re just not trustworthy&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Welcome to Africa mzee<br />
 <img src='http://whiteafrican.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kimani</title>
		<link>http://whiteafrican.com/2010/07/05/being-in-africa-makes-you-untrustworthy/comment-page-1/#comment-274126</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 09:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few things I should have added.

I have read the Country specific terms for South Africa PayPal service and I have to say its a quite limited service there. Our market is not as heavily regulated as South Africa and hopefully we shall access more services here. I also think that Kenya case was bolstered by the high profile of the mobile payment solution there (M-Pesa) which has consistently made international headlines, plus relatively low cases of fraud, a big tourism destination plus many other factors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things I should have added.</p>
<p>I have read the Country specific terms for South Africa PayPal service and I have to say its a quite limited service there. Our market is not as heavily regulated as South Africa and hopefully we shall access more services here. I also think that Kenya case was bolstered by the high profile of the mobile payment solution there (M-Pesa) which has consistently made international headlines, plus relatively low cases of fraud, a big tourism destination plus many other factors.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimani</title>
		<link>http://whiteafrican.com/2010/07/05/being-in-africa-makes-you-untrustworthy/comment-page-1/#comment-274107</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 08:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, PayPal is available to Kenyans finally. I found this out by accident after logging on to my PayPal account and found additional buttons, including Request money button. However, even though Kenyan PayPal accounts can be used to receive money, one still needs a US virtual bank account to withdraw the money. Hope this will be sorted out by a local bank, or perhaps PP allow Kenyans to withdraw using a prepaid debit card (me thinks pre-paid debit would be the best option--exchange rates offered by local banks for foreign cash tends to be absurdly exploitative). 

I am sure most will despair upon hearing you need a US account, but there are ways of getting around that without buying a 2-way ticket to US to open an account. Just apply for a virtual US bank account from Payoneer. It functions like a normal bank account, and includes a routing (ABA) number and an account number. Charges; $20 per year. Rules of eligibility are a bit stringent but worth it. Just processed the first payment and it works like heaven.

Those with foreign based accounts, maybe its high time you deactivated them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, PayPal is available to Kenyans finally. I found this out by accident after logging on to my PayPal account and found additional buttons, including Request money button. However, even though Kenyan PayPal accounts can be used to receive money, one still needs a US virtual bank account to withdraw the money. Hope this will be sorted out by a local bank, or perhaps PP allow Kenyans to withdraw using a prepaid debit card (me thinks pre-paid debit would be the best option&#8211;exchange rates offered by local banks for foreign cash tends to be absurdly exploitative). </p>
<p>I am sure most will despair upon hearing you need a US account, but there are ways of getting around that without buying a 2-way ticket to US to open an account. Just apply for a virtual US bank account from Payoneer. It functions like a normal bank account, and includes a routing (ABA) number and an account number. Charges; $20 per year. Rules of eligibility are a bit stringent but worth it. Just processed the first payment and it works like heaven.</p>
<p>Those with foreign based accounts, maybe its high time you deactivated them.</p>
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		<title>By: Qurba Joog</title>
		<link>http://whiteafrican.com/2010/07/05/being-in-africa-makes-you-untrustworthy/comment-page-1/#comment-269438</link>
		<dc:creator>Qurba Joog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@infosecafrica
I agree with your assessment however the question still remains what is the impact to local traders. Yes I agree this is painful (time &amp; ego) for folks buying from the Internet and are in Africa by this but majority of local do  business electronically local or say regionally in East Africa with mPesa for example. 

I would like to point out that additional tools are available now for example Idd Salim&#039;s creation Pay Zunguka (feature by @Hash). 

Anyway I think we may also need not just a payment and credit facility that suits Africa but also Logistics, electronic B2B &amp; B&amp;C ecosystem that brings all local shops, informal economy and even the Hawala system to the electronic age and better understands the local economy instead of wholly relying on systems that don&#039;t understand or care much about you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@infosecafrica<br />
I agree with your assessment however the question still remains what is the impact to local traders. Yes I agree this is painful (time &amp; ego) for folks buying from the Internet and are in Africa by this but majority of local do  business electronically local or say regionally in East Africa with mPesa for example. </p>
<p>I would like to point out that additional tools are available now for example Idd Salim&#8217;s creation Pay Zunguka (feature by @Hash). </p>
<p>Anyway I think we may also need not just a payment and credit facility that suits Africa but also Logistics, electronic B2B &amp; B&amp;C ecosystem that brings all local shops, informal economy and even the Hawala system to the electronic age and better understands the local economy instead of wholly relying on systems that don&#8217;t understand or care much about you.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Dickerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Dickerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working in Africa for a fair portion of each year, I had trouble using my credit cards.  My business service providers (Chase, primarily) graciously allowed me to browbeat them into removing the automated restrictions regarding where I could use the cards.  It took a few phone calls.

A larger difficulty is drop-shipping purchases to an African destination.  If I want a Dell computer for use in Sao Tome &amp; Principe, I have to buy it in the US and carry it as excess baggage to the country personally.  We need secure destination services that outside vendors can trust to deliver their products to us.  
A business opportunity?  I wonder if we might persuade the local management of DHL or FEDEX to negotiate directly with Dell and a few other major vendors for guaranteed service in a few major African cities; then advertise the service.  Think it would generate some change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working in Africa for a fair portion of each year, I had trouble using my credit cards.  My business service providers (Chase, primarily) graciously allowed me to browbeat them into removing the automated restrictions regarding where I could use the cards.  It took a few phone calls.</p>
<p>A larger difficulty is drop-shipping purchases to an African destination.  If I want a Dell computer for use in Sao Tome &amp; Principe, I have to buy it in the US and carry it as excess baggage to the country personally.  We need secure destination services that outside vendors can trust to deliver their products to us.<br />
A business opportunity?  I wonder if we might persuade the local management of DHL or FEDEX to negotiate directly with Dell and a few other major vendors for guaranteed service in a few major African cities; then advertise the service.  Think it would generate some change?</p>
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		<title>By: infosecafrica</title>
		<link>http://whiteafrican.com/2010/07/05/being-in-africa-makes-you-untrustworthy/comment-page-1/#comment-229007</link>
		<dc:creator>infosecafrica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Qurba Joog

I think you&#039;ll find that it&#039;s a MAJOR problem for people living IN Africa. As the author points out, PayPal is suspicious BECAUSE the author has an African mailing address. PayPal, Facebook et al are guilty of online profiling which would normally provoke an outcry in the real world.

Kenya was the first country in the world to adopt M-Pesa and the success of it there meant it has been adopted in other African countries and beyond. Infact as this article shows, http://allafrica.com/stories/201007020876.html, the US is considering it too.

If PayPal and Facebook make it difficult for African residents to use their services, then homegrown alternatives should be considered - in China, Baidu is the biggest search engine not Google. Likewise in Brazil, Orkut is the biggest social networking  site and not Facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Qurba Joog</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll find that it&#8217;s a MAJOR problem for people living IN Africa. As the author points out, PayPal is suspicious BECAUSE the author has an African mailing address. PayPal, Facebook et al are guilty of online profiling which would normally provoke an outcry in the real world.</p>
<p>Kenya was the first country in the world to adopt M-Pesa and the success of it there meant it has been adopted in other African countries and beyond. Infact as this article shows, <a href="http://allafrica.com/stories/201007020876.html" rel="nofollow">http://allafrica.com/stories/201007020876.html</a>, the US is considering it too.</p>
<p>If PayPal and Facebook make it difficult for African residents to use their services, then homegrown alternatives should be considered &#8211; in China, Baidu is the biggest search engine not Google. Likewise in Brazil, Orkut is the biggest social networking  site and not Facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: Qurba Joog</title>
		<link>http://whiteafrican.com/2010/07/05/being-in-africa-makes-you-untrustworthy/comment-page-1/#comment-228872</link>
		<dc:creator>Qurba Joog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 03:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hash - How much does the local Juma or Salim need this credit system per se. Since we have the hawalas and MPESA type transactions? How much online transaction is there today or is the problem just an inconvenience for those that are Diaspora but live in the African cities temporarily?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hash &#8211; How much does the local Juma or Salim need this credit system per se. Since we have the hawalas and MPESA type transactions? How much online transaction is there today or is the problem just an inconvenience for those that are Diaspora but live in the African cities temporarily?</p>
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		<title>By: Marto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik, you hit the nail on the head. Africa has done well but is yet to earn global respect. I don&#039;t know why it hasn&#039;t and when it will :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik, you hit the nail on the head. Africa has done well but is yet to earn global respect. I don&#8217;t know why it hasn&#8217;t and when it will <img src='http://whiteafrican.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: infosecafrica</title>
		<link>http://whiteafrican.com/2010/07/05/being-in-africa-makes-you-untrustworthy/comment-page-1/#comment-227773</link>
		<dc:creator>infosecafrica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would refer you to Team Cymru&#039;s whitepaper on African bot distribution, http://www.team-cymru.org/ReadingRoom/Whitepapers/.
 The digital scramble for Africa is well underway, but given that only 5 of the 53 African countries have adopted the Council of Europe&#039;s Convention of Cybercrime to draft e-legislation, a lot remains to be done.
Information Security for Africa (ISfA) is a not-for-profit organisation dedicated to the advancement and development of information security on the African continent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would refer you to Team Cymru&#8217;s whitepaper on African bot distribution, <a href="http://www.team-cymru.org/ReadingRoom/Whitepapers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.team-cymru.org/ReadingRoom/Whitepapers/</a>.<br />
 The digital scramble for Africa is well underway, but given that only 5 of the 53 African countries have adopted the Council of Europe&#8217;s Convention of Cybercrime to draft e-legislation, a lot remains to be done.<br />
Information Security for Africa (ISfA) is a not-for-profit organisation dedicated to the advancement and development of information security on the African continent.</p>
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		<title>By: Good Intentions Are Not Enough &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interesting articles and posts from early July</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good Intentions Are Not Enough &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Interesting articles and posts from early July</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Being in Africa Makes You Untrustworthy &#8211; The White African &#8211; Discusses PayPal and Facebook&#8217;s decisions not to provide services throughout all of Africa even though only two of the countries rank high in cyber crime. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Being in Africa Makes You Untrustworthy &#8211; The White African &#8211; Discusses PayPal and Facebook&#8217;s decisions not to provide services throughout all of Africa even though only two of the countries rank high in cyber crime. [...]</p>
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