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Comments on: Notes from gKenya https://whiteafrican.com/2010/09/08/notes-from-gkenya/ Where Africa and Technology Collide! Fri, 21 Dec 2018 15:55:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.24 By: Kasahorow Fellowship 2011. Apply NOW…!!! « Rambling's of a Ghanaian Blogger https://whiteafrican.com/2010/09/08/notes-from-gkenya/#comment-9233 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:06:44 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=3715#comment-9233 […] Notes from gKenya (whiteafrican.com) […]

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By: Ben Cole https://whiteafrican.com/2010/09/08/notes-from-gkenya/#comment-9232 Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:06:05 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=3715#comment-9232 Great summary, and interesting commentary afterward. I just started at Google in Ghana this week and wanted to so badly to make it to the conference, but it was too last minute. Thanks for the rundown.

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By: 16yroldKenyanGuy https://whiteafrican.com/2010/09/08/notes-from-gkenya/#comment-9231 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:02:23 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=3715#comment-9231 Google’s venturing into Kenya is pretty good.
However, I’m one of those people with reservations about multinational companies and world dominance in the days of Armageddon.
Anyway, I really hope there will be a Google House on Moi Avenue pretty soon.
+, I can’t seem to post comments through my phone. Been trying unsuccessfully for a week now. Hopefully, it’ll be sorted out soon.

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By: 16yroldKenyanguy https://whiteafrican.com/2010/09/08/notes-from-gkenya/#comment-9230 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:33:34 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=3715#comment-9230 Google’s venturing in2 Kenya is good. But I’m 1 of those guys who have reservd thoughts abt multi-national corp’8ns n world dominance. Bt I still hope there will be a Google House on Moi Ave.

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By: gobezu https://whiteafrican.com/2010/09/08/notes-from-gkenya/#comment-9229 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:28:39 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=3715#comment-9229 No emotions here, you were the one belittling my opinions, calling one silly is just doing that in my book.

Anyway I rest my case as your mission seem to be to tell how good Google is, something I couldn’t care any less about. I don’t understand why you even bothered to reply in the first place, oh, I forgot defending the “service b4 profit” Google.

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By: Crazywizard https://whiteafrican.com/2010/09/08/notes-from-gkenya/#comment-9228 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 05:38:36 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=3715#comment-9228 Flaring emotions aside, Google have massively benefited society. Faulting them for being huge and dependent on ads is wrong. It’s the money from those ads that has enabled the development of soo many gud and free services. And they even go a step further by sharing those revenues with us via adsense.
Granted, at the end of the day profits must be made, so I dont expect anyone running a business to sit back and wait to see if someone else wil fill a void in the market b4 me.
Just the same way people have built successful businesses riding on M$ Windows platform, so have others using many of google’s services e.g maps(ushahidi comes to mind here) and I dont hear you chiding the latter.
In conclusion, if you focus really hard @ finding fault in something, u will. Bt am sure majority of stakeholders agree google has done MORE GOOD than harm.

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By: gobezu https://whiteafrican.com/2010/09/08/notes-from-gkenya/#comment-9227 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:47:58 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=3715#comment-9227 @crazywizard, I think in such issue there are bound to be difference in opinions, and if you feel you have the correct answer then I am sure you can afford to let others speak instead of hunting down or belittle people or optionally if you feel you are so correct that you don’t have time with us others “silly” ones then why not turn the page, just a word of advice as fellow african…it would make it all more pleasurable

Let me start with the main issue I was trying to deal with and will get back to the focus of your reply to me, which seem to be heavy on Googles business strategy.

Now who is to tell how long a local innovator should be waited out or not, is it Google who defines our development agenda? Are we really telling ourselves that there is no one inventing locally? Why aren’t we allowed to develop with our own pace, and not spoon-fed by others and chocking on it? What kind of sustainable business is expected from such spoon feeding? Isn’t it what NGOs have been doing in our continent for as long as we can remember? Now anyone who really can’t buy a computer put up a network and learn him/herself develop a service can’t reasonably own a business that will ultimately be based on the knowledge and the finance of the owner. So lets forget those “urging, equipping and supportin local developers to be the next innovators” initiatives that are nothing but an entry in the long list of Googles “nice” activities, and be self empowered instead. There is nothing in it than a certain amount of dedication.

Now you mentioned “Instead of waiting forever for a local innovator, they are taking the lead”.

I would rather put it this way. there are inventors/business developers who really knows and feels the need of the market. Often times this is based on by being locally anchored and at the same time fortunate enough to experience and learn technical trends elsewhere. Being able to identify the gap. But in their effort to bring home those innovations they face various challenges, and scalibility is one of the main which many internet related services hold as premises. There is such lack of infrastructure and its reach that invented/developed solutions never reach the critical mass before they run out of capital and die.

This is my conclusion of many activities I have seen and equating this with that no local innovation is going on is not fair at all. So here is my point, because Google’s pocket seem not to have any limit of depth they can wait for the market to catch up and they will probably do just that if we carry on naively and allow them to take it sector by sector just in the name of “no one is doing it”.

Now going to the next issue of Googles business practices, or as you seem want to hold it as “model of service b4 profit”, hailing Google as the all to go charity house is just a choice one as individual makes and not based on facts. Equating Microsoft with the evil and Google as the opposite is making it too easy and you should read up on certain facts regarding Microsoft and for that matter Google as well. Microsoft made the right moves given the time they were operating and developing their business. They are also now trying to adapt to the new business rules and are really trying, as is evident if you look around.

Google is a profit making entity as any (ex. Microsoft), and the only thing its got going for it currently is nothing but ad revenue and the fact that it provides those services and softwares you counted is not because it wants to do it by the virtue of its existence and for the sake of humanity rather its a matter of maintaining their position in the market where they earn their bottom line, and also to be able to grow their reaches. If they didn’t do that there would be no Google no more, simple. Believing anything else is as I said earlier each ones choice, but not mine.
Their sheer dominance in their sector is to such extent that they indeed afford to go out of their way to do the things they are doing cementing further their dominance, example in my earlier comment suffices.

A growing amount of people everywhere is believing Google and its dominance is up for scrutiny, and believe me these opinion is shared widely from legislators to die hard google fans (defined as mere users currently satisfied with various applications google is coming with but concerned about the extent, width and depth of their reach, to which I belong).

Agree or disagree thats my opinion and I will not bulge just because you resort to belittling remarks about me, and my opinion is not less or more valid because I use products from Google.

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By: Crazywizard https://whiteafrican.com/2010/09/08/notes-from-gkenya/#comment-9226 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:25:23 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=3715#comment-9226 Gozebu, that’s the silliest thing I ever heard. Google are probably the most responsible major corporations unlike the likes of M$ and Safaricon. Their model of service b4 profit is what enabled the success of google search, gmail, google maps, android etc of which am sure u use a lot FOR FREE.!
Instead of waiting forever for a local innovator, they are taking the lead by urging, equipping and supportin local developers to be the next innovators. Even Americans themselves did not have it this good.

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By: gobezu https://whiteafrican.com/2010/09/08/notes-from-gkenya/#comment-9225 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 10:25:25 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=3715#comment-9225 so why is google trying to do good with all the odds against it, an investment, hmmm?
one fact i hate about their involvement is that they actually by their sheer ability to dominate kill the creativity of many, i mean google trader in uganda would for instance had been the invention of some clever local one…

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