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Comments on: Will The Real Payment Disruptor Please Stand Up https://whiteafrican.com/2012/02/19/will-the-real-payment-disruptor-please-stand-up/ Where Africa and Technology Collide! Fri, 21 Dec 2018 15:55:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.24 By: Kenyan mobile money sparks inflation fears | SmartPlanet https://whiteafrican.com/2012/02/19/will-the-real-payment-disruptor-please-stand-up/#comment-9958 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 08:00:30 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4485#comment-9958 s a good thing that Mpesa happened in Africa. It offered a new way of thinking about money [...]]]> […] people.  M-Pesa was able to leapfrog existing institutions and regulations. As Kenyan tech expert Erik Hersman put it in his blog: It’s a good thing that Mpesa happened in Africa. It offered a new way of thinking about money […]

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By: GSMSavvy https://whiteafrican.com/2012/02/19/will-the-real-payment-disruptor-please-stand-up/#comment-9957 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:23:53 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4485#comment-9957 What is the future of M-PESA ? Is it really going to revolutionize? Maybe become an independent worldwide company offering mobile money transfer services? If then, what kind of servers will it use? 14 million users and beating Western Union’s worldwide transactions is really something that might need servers imported from another planet.

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By: Matt Krueger https://whiteafrican.com/2012/02/19/will-the-real-payment-disruptor-please-stand-up/#comment-9956 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:34:37 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4485#comment-9956 Hey Erik – Thanks for the response and the blog post link. You’re right – I had forgotten about utility payments which are probably substantial.

I’m no longer working with Equity Bank and moved back to the States – I see that you’re actually in the Bay area as well at the moment. Let me know if you have any spare time while you’re here, I’d love to meet up and chat about E Africa tech, what’s going on here in the Valley and how I can stay involved.

Thanks,
Matt

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By: Kenya fan https://whiteafrican.com/2012/02/19/will-the-real-payment-disruptor-please-stand-up/#comment-9955 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:26:54 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4485#comment-9955 Business Daily in Kenya reports that Visa has launched a cross-border mobile money transfer platform, available to all mobile users irrespective of their network – going after Safaricom’s M-Pesa? http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Visa+to+start+mobile+money+transfer+/-/1006/1330780/-/r7683rz/-/

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By: HASH https://whiteafrican.com/2012/02/19/will-the-real-payment-disruptor-please-stand-up/#comment-9954 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:09:14 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4485#comment-9954 Good questions Matt.

1. Mpesa is more of a transfer service than payment service, true. However, it is used for many types of payments, even if not in the very lucrative b2b or traditional b2c. Instead, those are more p2p payments.

For instance, I bought 20,000 Ksh of goods from someone last week. He emailed me an invoice, I paid him via Mpesa, and neither of us wasted the fuel (and time) to meet in person. Most Kenyans pay for electricity and water via Mpesa, so that is a rather large monthly payment made by a lare percentage of the population.

2. Yes, I do, but only AFTER it’s success in Kenya. That was proven by 2009 and as MJ left the helm in 2010, it was the perfect time for a pivot by Vodafone on making Mpesa an independent entity. It would be the right product and the right leader for it.

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By: Matt Krueger https://whiteafrican.com/2012/02/19/will-the-real-payment-disruptor-please-stand-up/#comment-9953 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 00:52:21 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4485#comment-9953 I agree that there shouldn’t be any mobile payments discussion without at least mentioning M-Pesa and nodding to its success. To that end, it was nice to see that Vinod Khosla did just that in his recent TC post: http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/19/unhyped-internet-and-mobile/. (Of course, he should know about Kenya’s mobile money what with Khosla’s investment in the outstanding team at Kopo Kopo…)

Two questions though:
~M-Pesa is more of a money transfer service today, in all honesty, than a payments service, no? I’m guessing that the VAST majority of their transactions are P2P; I never did see many people at Uchumi or Deacon stores using M-Pesa… and with the TX cost (30/=) M-Pesa isn’t positioning itself for informal payments. At least not yet. That isn’t to diminish the amazing success it has been – it’s just that the success has been as a transfer service more than a payment service.
~Do you really think that M-Pesa could have been successful as an independent entity? It seems that its success owes a great deal to being embedded on the SIM cards of a dominant MNO…

Great stuff as usual!

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By: Payments: The More Things Change… | Mobile Money Exchange https://whiteafrican.com/2012/02/19/will-the-real-payment-disruptor-please-stand-up/#comment-9952 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:34:07 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4485#comment-9952 t go [...]]]> […] US and Europe, those parts of the world without credit card infrastructure (especially Kenya) are seeing real innovation. And Tim Harford one-upped them both by reminding us that cash is still around and won’t go […]

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By: HASH https://whiteafrican.com/2012/02/19/will-the-real-payment-disruptor-please-stand-up/#comment-9951 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:55:22 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4485#comment-9951 Credit is easy to layer on to something like Mpesa, if you’re Safaricom (or Vodafone). It’s just another feature for them.

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By: Wayan https://whiteafrican.com/2012/02/19/will-the-real-payment-disruptor-please-stand-up/#comment-9950 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 13:04:06 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4485#comment-9950 Credit (not cards) is the 900 gorilla of finance. M-PESA doesn’t allow for credit. The service that does will dwarf all current mMoney services. Just as a point of reference, the global bond market is 2x the size of all the stock markets.

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By: Joe https://whiteafrican.com/2012/02/19/will-the-real-payment-disruptor-please-stand-up/#comment-9949 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:26:30 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4485#comment-9949 I think its only a matter of time until someone highlights the fact that mPesa does not segment out its market, but rather covers everybody from wealthiest urbanites to poorest villagers compared to the Silicon Valley payment innovations which are usually tier based and often leave out the bottom tiers which also happens to be largest in size.

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