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Comments on: Kenya’s Slippery Censorship Slope https://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/ Where Africa and Technology Collide! Fri, 21 Dec 2018 15:55:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.24 By: ARE WE THROWING THE BABY WITH THE BATH WATER | Ali Hussein https://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/#comment-10182 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:49:39 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4616#comment-10182 […] Kenya’s Slippery Slope to Censorship […]

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By: How technology is shaping the decisive Kenya Elections https://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/#comment-10181 Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:44:04 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4616#comment-10181 […] The government can follow the map to block or close down a site that communicates the speech, such as a Facebook page, and even use it to identify a user to arrest under the2009 Communications Amendment Act, a piece of legislation about which many Kenyanshave some severe reservations. […]

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By: d https://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/#comment-10180 Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:58:41 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4616#comment-10180 I don’t support the government on raiding on media houses, but comeone men , I think Alai was a bit over himself, the way he said it was just wrong, If he could have only implied that Mr. Alfred had done that, then Atleast I would understood, but he acused him as a fact, Even if it were you bieng acused and you beleive its false,you would report to the police and you would want them to do something about it

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By: Al Kags https://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/#comment-10179 Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:02:36 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4616#comment-10179 I shall respond to this in some level of detail today because I have been reflecting on this. However, issues with the law not withstanding, I think the law does not necessarily result in censorship. One must be held accountable for views that one holds forth publicly. The officers of the law did misrepresent themselves as regards the law by quoting all those sections, but that does deliver itself in truth when we study the law as you have – we then know which law he has contravened. What he said of Alfred Mutua (even whereas there are many of us who have a low opinion of Alfred), did contravene – not just this law but also rules of natural justice. He shall defend himself in a court of law.

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By: Ali Hussein https://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/#comment-10178 Mon, 27 Aug 2012 00:49:17 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4616#comment-10178 Eric

Interesting piece and food for thought. My take is that if we set aside for a moment all these sections of the law that you have mentioned and ask ourselves how far the law has been stretched to arrest Robert?

Without the Communications Act has he run afoul of any other laws? Would he behave the same way offline that he has online? You raised the issue of how he uses this behavior for monetary gain. That’s his business model. Do lets set aside the ‘offending’ laws for a moment and ask ourselves if he behaved in that manner say in a party. Some people abused may turn the other cheek and walk away. Some may turn back and hit him. It just so happens that Alfred Mutua decided to fight back. Now we can argue the merits and demerits of what has happened to Robert. But I’m sure we can’t argue about the rights of the offended.

The law is an Ass.. So my question is this – Should you deliberately time and again goad the ass to kick you? We know that the Ass has a nasty kick. What are the odds that you will finally be kicked? Hard?

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By: Lt,. David Omondi https://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/#comment-10177 Sat, 25 Aug 2012 21:50:42 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4616#comment-10177 If you look at the said person’s tweets and blogs, you will find a collection of insults aimed at anyone and everyone(yourself included). As much as we would all like to defend freedom of speech, it would be unreasonable to allow anyone who is prone to insulting other people to do so as though there are no laws in Kenya! This doesn’t even happen in our ‘offline’ lives! NO ONE has been prosecuted for expressing their opinion in a respectful manner that does not undermine the person(s) he/she has grievances against! I would urge all of you to acknowledge the immense power of social media on our nation and to think carefully before we post ‘opinions’ therein.

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By: Kenyan Blogger Detained Over Controversial Tweets · Global Voices https://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/#comment-10176 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:07:05 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4616#comment-10176 […] is a very controversial blogger who has stepped on many people's toes, as Erik Hersman explains in his post that begins with Voltaire's quote, “I disapprove of what you say, but I will […]

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By: Rose Kahendi https://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/#comment-10175 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:16:38 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4616#comment-10175 I think the discussion of libel and what that constitutes is worth having, as is that about this arrest setting a precedent.

I hope that, in having this discussion, we don’t forget the original story that started all of this: the one about Mrs. Karen Kandie, the Kenyan woman who was assaulted and is now having a hard time getting justice.

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By: SimonB https://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/#comment-10174 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:47:29 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4616#comment-10174 While I understand that Robert can sometimes speak harshly about others on twitter, I also know that Robert is an awesome guy and would not do this without cause. From my personal experience, I can say that Robert is possibly the best ambassador Kenya has online .

When I visited Kenya for the first time back in 2010, Robert was the only Kenyan tweep to reach out to me and provide assistance sorting a few things that I needed while on location in Kenya to make my stay comfortable. He never asked anything in return and I can truly say, Robert went far out of his way to help. I will never forget that. Thank you Robert!

When Robert hits out at others online there must be good reason for this.

When someone makes a death threat against you, then I’d say thats good enough reason, I don’t see why slamming someone who threatened you online should be wrong. I have personally had a death threat and I can say that this rattles most people to the bone. If I was in Roberts shoes I would have hit back even harder online. Especially considering that the threat comes from a government official. Government officials have huge klout and can quickly have people arrested and assaulted. All we as private people have is twitter and other social media channels and I think Robert defended himself by posting to twitter. I would have done the same thing although I would have uploaded the audio recording of the threat 😉 hint hint Robert.

Lets not forget that Robert has received a death threat once before: http://walala-hoi.blogspot.com/2011/06/robert-alai-man-gay-man-who-took-photos.html The death threat is still online, and a few days after that death threat Robert was very seriously assaulted http://twitpic.com/photos/RobertAlai

Are those responsible behind bars? Shame on you Kenya!

If Robert is assaulted again, thanks to his tweets, we will all know who instigated it and as a community can take action against this person.

@whiteafrican – Where do you get the info that Nokia, Google, iHub and Skunkworks have banned & blacklisted Robert?

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By: wanjiku https://whiteafrican.com/2012/08/22/kenyas-slippery-censorship-slope/#comment-10173 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:32:39 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4616#comment-10173 Its funny how helping someone’s cause doesn’t mean they get the point… 🙂 Just seen Alai’s response….

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