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Comments on: The Problem with Hardware in Africa https://whiteafrican.com/2013/07/08/the-problem-with-hardware-in-africa/ Where Africa and Technology Collide! Fri, 21 Dec 2018 15:55:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.24 By: HASH https://whiteafrican.com/2013/07/08/the-problem-with-hardware-in-africa/#comment-10357 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 06:44:59 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4833#comment-10357 @PK – at the time of writing it we hadn’t cleared it yet. In these cases you have to go to the airport to clear it with the KRA officials who work with the FedEx / UPS / DHL companies there. We were able to negotiate a lower rate with them to get it cleared in this instance.

You’re right in that you do pay the customs duty at the bank, but that’s done right there at the airport, then you bring that receipt with you back to the KRA desk and have it cleared. My quote about making friends with a KRA official is not a veiled suggestion that I’ll bribe anyone – I don’t. It’s instead a nod to the fact that in Kenya you need to build relationships in order to make things smoother.

Another issue, that you raise here yourself, is the variance in rates. You note that an white person gets charged higher rates, this is true, it’s also true that different KRA officials will charge different rates themselves on the same things. The problem with the system is that it’s ripe for (any) interpretation, meaning there is added risk for everyone – not just white people. Just ask Wananchi Group about their pain in importing finished products like routers into the country – whole containers are charged at haphazard and crazy rates which vastly increase the cost of them doing business.

As to what I’m doing, I’m starting by documenting my problems and I’ve already spoken to one government official. I’ll continue to do the same and lobby for the changes we need.

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By: PK https://whiteafrican.com/2013/07/08/the-problem-with-hardware-in-africa/#comment-10356 Fri, 12 Jul 2013 06:25:16 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4833#comment-10356 Hi and thanks for your article.

First, let me start by applauding you for your heroic efforts. I hope it pays out.

A number of points are not clear from this piece. For example, you stated that, “… we have to pay $300 (26,000 Ksh)”, which implies that you haven’t paid the stated amount (at least, by the time of writing). If not, are you going to pay or will you seek redress?

It’s also not clear to me whether or not you opposed the charges vigorously. Note that I’m not saying you are OK with them but that, if this is corruption, we have to be willing to stand up to it, especially if we’re on the right. Requesting to see a senior officer could help. I know of individuals who have had to pay customs duty and these were reasonably charged. Moreover, if I’m not mistaken (correct me if I’m wrong), customs duty should be paid at a bank in which case you would have evidence of being overcharged and can then seek redress. Your comment to one of the responses that “… Better than a customs broker, I think I need to make friends with a KRA official… as much as I hate to think about it.” is, to quote a great man, ‘building on sand’.

The article paints a bleak picture for anyone who hopes to venture into some form of hardware design and I have no doubt this is largely true. But as pioneers in electronics manufacture you need to define a corruption-free path for others to follow. People are watching with bated breath and if you know Kenyans it’s bound to soon be a crowded industry. There is much to be done in local hardware but this hardly makes for a rosy start. Nevertheless, I’m quite certain that similar items have been previously imported. For example, I worked for a Kenyan Indian in Westlands, who owns an industrial electronics firm. He must have, at one point or another, needed such devices.

Also note that foreigners are usually charged higher customs duty. Not that you’re a foreigner but the fact that you are a mzungu might have had something to do with it. Actually, the fact that you’re mzungu should be to your advantage…

Finally, it appears that KRA collect information on new items so that in future they can apply similar custom charges (custom rulings? see here). Could it be that this will then be what you and everyone else will have to pay henceforth? I’m not sure…

Despite all this, it’s great to see what you’re doing. I wish you well.

PK

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By: OA News: July 1-10, 2013 – oAfrica https://whiteafrican.com/2013/07/08/the-problem-with-hardware-in-africa/#comment-10355 Thu, 11 Jul 2013 07:12:47 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4833#comment-10355 […] The Problem with Hardware in Africa {WhiteAfrican} […]

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By: john https://whiteafrican.com/2013/07/08/the-problem-with-hardware-in-africa/#comment-10354 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:52:31 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4833#comment-10354 At this point in time when GOK’s biggest nightmare is how to finance escalating OpEx, much thought needs to go into how to sell a ‘fringe’ good thing like tax concessions for importing raw manufacturing components for electronics. Seeing how we lobby, Its certainly not in the radar of industrialisation, planning and finance ministries if not in the radar of ICT ministry. Its about time to focus less attention on hapless ICT ministries and to direct noises towards the finance, industrialisation and other ministries that matter.

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By: r https://whiteafrican.com/2013/07/08/the-problem-with-hardware-in-africa/#comment-10353 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:44:10 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4833#comment-10353 A practical suggestion (long term): set up a lobby group and announce this example as part of a press release. Get local media to engage with government. Being naive and optimistic, this should cause a change in policy.

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By: bankelele https://whiteafrican.com/2013/07/08/the-problem-with-hardware-in-africa/#comment-10352 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 07:59:05 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4833#comment-10352 Drop down thw value of anything you ship into the country. It’s not evasion of duty, but the assessment of tax is often arbitrary, by officers who don’t know what they are inspecting

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By: Afrowave https://whiteafrican.com/2013/07/08/the-problem-with-hardware-in-africa/#comment-10351 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 17:49:39 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4833#comment-10351 Once upon a time, I tinkered with electronics and built a 5 year old business, building and repairing computing and consumer electronics. A lot of the guys who imported parts who were along Luthuli avenue closed down. Kenya Electronics moved to Westlands and resolved to expensively hold on.

My business was successful in that kept me fed. Just. I consciously closed it and escaped into “software” solution provision. There is a part of me calling out to hardware…

I say we storm the Ministry of Industrialization and put our asks on the table. With the BRCK, we can.

Can’t we?

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By: Gregg https://whiteafrican.com/2013/07/08/the-problem-with-hardware-in-africa/#comment-10350 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 10:59:01 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4833#comment-10350 I know of a non-profit that is distributing recycled laptops around the world using “dootrips” where volunteers carry the laptops as checked baggage, effectively eliminating the distribution costs. I took laptops from the US to Thailand a couple of years ago. I wonder if that group might be a resource for getting parts to your group(s)? Take a look at http://www.labdoo.org/

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By: Eric Gitonga https://whiteafrican.com/2013/07/08/the-problem-with-hardware-in-africa/#comment-10349 Mon, 08 Jul 2013 17:26:35 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4833#comment-10349 JKE , there is Masimo Electronics on River Road who have quite a good stock of electronic components and test equipment.

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By: HASH https://whiteafrican.com/2013/07/08/the-problem-with-hardware-in-africa/#comment-10348 Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:34:37 +0000 http://whiteafrican.com/?p=4833#comment-10348 @Steve – that’s what I’m thinking too. It doesn’t make sense that components/resources that can’t be created locally have a duty charged on them. Finished goods makes a lot more sense.

Better than a customs broker, I think I need to make friends with a KRA official… as much as I hate to think about it. 🙂

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